Curse

Patsrule711 · Oct 05, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

hello,

I have recently been playing around with the discord spam build on pvxwiki. I was wondering if there were any changes you guys would make to the build that is on there. I think enfeeble blood and suffering would be good for mass hex + condition but im not sure where to put them in. If anyone has an sudgestions that would be great. I am running a warrior and i am running the assassin promise build they have.

Turbobusa · Oct 05, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09

enfeebling blood wherever you want, I use 3 copies.
AoE hex on the non primary MM, non healer hero.
Youcan put single target hexes on any char too...

dilan155 · Oct 05, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

suffering is a good hex but it is energy heavy, ofc this shouldn't be a problem if the discord can kill the enemy fast enough. enfeebling is a great idea as well, i would say use it instead of one of the heals.

XkristoferX · Oct 05, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

weaken armor and rip ench are both great. Dull Weapon + Enfleeding is amazing. suffering is heavy with energy but heros use Sig of Lost Souls wonderfully, so energy really won't be an issue.

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upier · Oct 05, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

I am guessing this is the build in question?
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Discord_Spam

I haven't been running this build in 4 man areas yet - but for 8 man areas - the first thing I do is dump the Resto stuff.
My heroes run this:

The dude with minions has 14 in Death, the curser has 13 and the last one currently has 14 because 10 is enough for Channeling - but when I ran Illusion or Water on her I didn't have problems lowering it to 13 (or was it even 12?).
I then add the 2 monks and warrior or mesmer hench.
No need to waste perfectly good skill slots on heals - The Wall and Aegis chains, combined with the reduced pressure of hex/condition removal AND PS result in the two silly monk hench performing good enough.

MercenaryKnight · Oct 05, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

You have cure hex, which will remove 1 hex. No hex removal on your own char (btw, hex eater signet is pretty good with clumped up heroes).

In my own opinion the best part is the second aegis. Should drop the dismiss conditions and make the curser bring foulfeast and perhaps plague sending? I don't know if they'd spend all day plague sending stuff rather than cursing. But foulfeast is a good option most of the time.

Heck, even on the mm you could bring the infuse condition and foulfeast so it always goes to your minions.

Also, usually the pressure with hexes isn't enough to warrant removing them all. There are occasions where you get really bad hexes on you, but generally the point is to have a protective was kaoli and life spirit to aid in the pressure you'll get which can happen from anything.

Please note, this wasn't an attempt to flame or anything. It obviously works good because you've used it with success. In my own opinion I just feel that it could be improved and you have a few wasted skill slots.

upier · Oct 05, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Absolutely - that's the beauty of Discord-builds.
You run 3 necros and pretty much the only thing you need to put on those bars is Discord while making sure that you have ways of throwing a hex and a condition out there.
The rest are skills that one is able to switch out at any given time. You need more hex removal - you grab it. You need more condition removal - again free for taking. You want to experiment with other options - knock yourself out. (Like I said - Livi used to be Water and Illusion before that.)
Discord in 8 man areas is a really, really REALLY open page. And you can write your story anyway you want to.
(And this was what I was trying to say - rather then giving a specific build. I guess men's brains aren't made for multi-tasking.

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MercenaryKnight · Oct 05, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Just wanted to make suggestions incase anyone tried to copy your build and run it everywhere. Since a lot of people see a build that someone says works, and never think about changing skills because "if it works, don't fix it".

A lot of people seem to do that now and days. I still see people running the original sab's builds even if theirs no corpses and what not.

zwei2stein · Oct 06, 2008, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

Absolutely - that's the beauty of Discord-builds.
You run 3 necros and pretty much the only thing you need to put on those bars is Discord while making sure that you have ways of throwing a hex and a condition out there.

QFT.

11+1+1 death, one elite skill slot and 10+1 sr is all what you need.

Hell, you can put Pets on all the necro heroes and you still run extremely effective discord.

And it can beat 4x this : http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shiverpeak_Protector (LOL @ 8 condition removals in and 4 antispike elites in group)

upier · Oct 06, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

Just wanted to make suggestions incase anyone tried to copy your build and run it everywhere. Since a lot of people see a build that someone says works, and never think about changing skills because "if it works, don't fix it".

A lot of people seem to do that now and days. I still see people running the original sab's builds even if theirs no corpses and what not.

Aye - totally understand it.
Plus like I said, it reminded me of what I REALLY wanted to say - so thanks again.